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To make Electric Cars practical, all we seem to hear about is the advancement of battery technology. No one seems to have any concern for motor technology, since its 100 years old and you can’t exceed 100% efficiency. So being in Electric Motor design most of my career, I have now developed what I call a magnetic motor utilizing permanent magnets. Its not perpetual motion, but it does rotate about 90% of one revolution! To keep the motor turning, I have to pulse it with a small amount of electricity. The good news is that the motor actually produces more power than it uses, which means the Electric car can be driven for unlimited miles!..The bad news is the motor won’t start on its own. So I’m looking for ideas to overcome this problem.
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On November 4th, 2010 at 7:05 pm John Said:
90% isn’t good enough, 99.99999999999999999999999% isn’t good enough. You’re chasing perpetual motion and it will never work.
On November 5th, 2010 at 11:51 am Dale Bowen Said:
Your 100% correct John and I agree, Perpetual Motion doesn’t exist. Two permanent magnets attracting to each other is as close as we come to Perpetual Motion. Work is being done without any energy and it comes to an end when the magnets stick together. This type of action is called Linear Motion. The same thing happens when we convert this Linear Motion into Rotary Motion. We get one revolution and then it stops. So to overcome this you have to add some energy and it doesn’t take a lot of enegy to do this. For an example lets say it takes only 10% of the energy of a normal Electric Motor to accomplish this, that leaves 90% of the Motor as Free Magnetic Energy! All I’m doing is extracting part of this 90% Free Energy to supply power for the the 10% energy required to keep the Motor turning. The problem with this type of Motor is that it has no starting torque and runs at a constant speed. therefore it can’t be used for an Electric Vehicle.
On November 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm John Said:
All you describe is basically the way electric motors already work. Motors are already better than 90% efficient. Even if you improved motor efficiency to 100%, (and you can’t), you still need the same sized battery pack to get a usable range. Getting 110 miles of range instead of 100 miles of range doesn’t change anything. It’s all about the batteries.
On December 3rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm Dale Bowen Said:
Thanks for your comment John. you are correct on the way standard electric motors work. I have been designing them most of my career.
But what I have here is a new hybrid magnetic/electric motor. Its not a conventional electric motor! I have a crude prototype worknig and I’m in the process of building up a better model so I can apply for a patent.
On December 14th, 2010 at 12:33 pm johnny halog Said:
Its time to go first in mass producing this invention…..Lets do it
now before the chinese copy it and produce below quality products…
Hurray for these inventors…good luck.
On December 27th, 2010 at 12:46 am Ira Sorkin Said:
So it runs at a constant speed but produces more energy than it uses.
Sounds like something to charge the batteries, not to run the car
directly. You get the thing running and then use some kind of clutch
mechanism to connect the generator. If your motor has enough torque
to run the generator it’s all gravy from then on.
On March 4th, 2011 at 4:35 pm karel danko Said:
Dale iam form holland….
and if you have already devoleped an engine i want more info about it…
hope you can sent me some information at my email adres aec @ adviseert dot com
On March 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 pm Bobsomm Said:
Hi Dale, glad to see someone trying to do the right thing.
Ira Sorkin is right, a battery to get it going would work.
There is another concept I would be happy to discuss with you. It is very simple and should suffice to even out the power demands of your car. For example, you need enough power to go up hills. You need to recover power as you slow down. But if you use your motor to charge up the device, that I envision, it would give raw brute power for hills when needed and also recharge from your magnetic motor as well as from the act of slowing down. It is an energy storage device but not electrical. It should allow your mag-motor to run at a constant speed with no gearing or other mechanical factors as you drive through varying driving requirements.
Regarding magnetic motors, I believe there is a way to make it continuously rotate through the normal NULL point without needing a separate electrical device. However, nothing wrong using an electric kicker, just think it can be simplified.
For now, do you have plans to proceed? I would like to follow your progress and discuss if I can come up with something helpful to make this a go.
Peace Bob. bobsomm@aol.com
On April 6th, 2011 at 8:13 pm Nicholas Said:
Hello good for you I’m doing the same thing! What I’ve done is let the electric magnetic generator run and run charging the battery 24/7 with ample generating power to be able to keep the car even at the fastest of speeds when the car isn’t running at these speeds the energy is wasted or can be used to power a lot of your house! People say well what a waste but it’s 100 percent green and allows us to get up and go whenever and for however long! All that happens is when you turn on the car you start using up your battery then there is space for the generator to fill up and less is wasted! I’d love to email with you discussing some ideas! Nicholasggill@yahoo.com hope we can get our machines off the drawing board and into a car soon!
On May 27th, 2011 at 6:02 pm Warren Said:
Bowen,
On May 27th, 2011 at 6:12 pm warren Said:
Dont listen to john , if he knew what he was taking about then he would be giving solutions instead of twisting your explainations.
Keep going with your work. The only way to show it works is to make it real.
On November 26th, 2011 at 9:00 pm Tim Said:
options, leave enough battery charged up when you turn the motor off to be able to start it back up again., another idea would be to use human power to charge a battery bank that could then be used to start the motor.
On September 19th, 2012 at 12:04 am Ron Said:
I have designed a completly electric car. Never needs charged. Never needs gas. Not solar. Charges it self. I am in the building and testing stage now. Could use some help on the electrical side. Any ideas ?
On January 3rd, 2013 at 1:15 pm Michael Said:
I assume its with permanent magnets (without the magnetic coils of a normal motor) right? but since both magnets cannot vary current they’ll always run at a constant rpm so it wouldn’t be good for an ev and also how would it work as a generator
On January 10th, 2013 at 4:26 pm keith smith Said:
whats wrong with usung the standard sized vehichle and instead of the rear differential as it is use some sort of magnet to travel forward and reverse its so simple its stupid
On January 10th, 2013 at 4:27 pm keith smith Said:
already sent sent one
On January 10th, 2013 at 4:29 pm keith smith Said:
use the gas peddle to get closer to the magnet and vis-versa
On January 10th, 2013 at 4:31 pm keith smith Said:
why go electric when u can use mags we have trains that r mags already no charging no dependancies
On May 8th, 2013 at 11:47 pm James Gustafson Said:
Good work i do know that some company in Australia i think it is called Lutech or something like that has all ready recieved patent on this type of technology. They were looking for major investors for a while to help get this off the ground. And yes perpetual energy is real and possable, the sun, nuclear subs that run on a reactor for 20 years. Pulling the power out of the atmosphere to run an electric car. All have been done all will never work because they produce free energy. They cant make multi billion dollar companies on free energy. Just think put a little nuclear cell in your car, on your house. The Goverment can use this for free energy but not the people.